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Motor Guide Results

Here is your handy guide to the motors that might work with your rocket. We found 67 motors that fit and appear to have enough thrust (729 motors didn't fit, 9 motors failed safety checks). 75 motor had thrust curves available and 159 flight simulations were performed. Browse the motors that did and didn't work right here or download the results as a spreadsheet.

The Rocket

Rocket Name:   1/38 Saturn V
Owner: Chris Prinzi
Body Diameter: 10.00in
Dry Weight: 66.00lb
MMT Diameter: 98.0mm
MMT Length: 11,000.0mm
CD: 0.30

Motors That Work

These motors fit your rocket and appear to have enough thrust to lift it safely. If thrust curves are available, a quick simulation has been run to give a rough idea of the performance of your rocket on this motor. We encourage you to run a more complete simulation with any motor you plan to use; see the simulators page for more info.

  Motor Weight Launch Velocity Accel Altitude Time Delay
OK Cesaroni K1620 72.78lb 75ft/s 196ft/s 4.8G 714ft 7.4s 6s
OK AeroTech K1999 72.59lb 81ft/s 213ft/s 5.6G 806ft 7.7s 6s
OK AeroTech L1300 76.77lb 62ft/s 325ft/s 3.6G 2,013ft 12.7s 9s
OK AeroTech L1500 76.27lb 72ft/s 345ft/s 4.6G 2,211ft 12.8s 9s
OK AeroTech L2500 77.00lb 93ft/s 385ft/s 7.4G 2,306ft 12.5s 11s
OK Cesaroni L3150 76.43lb 105ft/s 413ft/s 9.9G 2,502ft 12.8s 11s
OK AeroTech M1075 81.37lb 51ft/s 339ft/s 2.6G 2,505ft 14.8s 9s
OK Cesaroni M1560 76.97lb 68ft/s 392ft/s 4.4G 2,688ft 14.2s 11s
OK Contrail M2800 89.60lb 94ft/s 417ft/s 13.2G 2,832ft 13.7s 11s
OK Contrail M2700 89.00lb 131ft/s 424ft/s 15.3G 2,905ft 13.6s 11s
OK Contrail M1575 89.55lb 88ft/s 433ft/s 6.5G 3,328ft 15.3s 11s
OK Cesaroni M520 80.76lb 48ft/s 293ft/s 2.0G 3,425ft 19.3s 5s
OK AeroTech M1305 81.65lb 67ft/s 437ft/s 4.4G 3,746ft 16.9s 11s
OK AeroTech M1600 81.25lb 69ft/s 484ft/s 4.3G 3,948ft 17.0s 13s
OK Cesaroni M1060 80.71lb 62ft/s 434ft/s 3.2G 4,144ft 18.4s 11s
OK AeroTech M1340 81.43lb 65ft/s 468ft/s 4.3G 4,210ft 17.7s 12s
OK AeroTech M1419 81.25lb 57ft/s 445ft/s 3.2G 4,283ft 18.6s 11s
OK Cesaroni M1290 82.34lb 60ft/s 481ft/s 3.3G 4,354ft 18.5s 12s
OK Cesaroni M1520 80.81lb 69ft/s 510ft/s 4.1G 4,437ft 18.0s 13s
OK AeroTech M4500 80.60lb 127ft/s 612ft/s 14.9G 4,579ft 16.5s 15s
OK Cesaroni M2505 79.78lb 91ft/s 575ft/s 7.4G 4,580ft 17.3s 14s
OK Cesaroni M4770 80.34lb 128ft/s 628ft/s 15.4G 4,676ft 16.7s 15s
OK AeroTech M2100 81.25lb 83ft/s 564ft/s 7.4G 4,705ft 17.7s 14s
OK AeroTech M2400 80.22lb 89ft/s 578ft/s 6.8G 4,736ft 17.6s 14s
OK Cesaroni M1790 84.24lb 68ft/s 554ft/s 4.5G 4,788ft 18.5s 14s
OK AeroTech M1800 86.20lb 71ft/s 544ft/s 6.5G 4,788ft 18.4s 13s
OK AeroTech M1845 80.73lb 81ft/s 568ft/s 5.9G 5,051ft 18.5s 14s
OK Hypertek M1000 85.64lb 60ft/s 468ft/s 2.9G 5,071ft 20.5s 10s
OK Hypertek M1010 85.84lb 60ft/s 475ft/s 3.0G 5,231ft 20.8s 11s
OK Gorilla M1025 88.35lb 63ft/s 479ft/s 3.5G 5,488ft 21.0s 12s
OK Cesaroni M6400 83.46lb 151ft/s 724ft/s 19.1G 5,649ft 18.0s 17s
OK AeroTech M2000 85.81lb 77ft/s 626ft/s 5.2G 5,713ft 19.7s 15s
OK Cesaroni M795 84.72lb 62ft/s 462ft/s 3.6G 6,061ft 22.9s 10s
OK AeroTech M2500 83.78lb 91ft/s 691ft/s 6.8G 6,253ft 19.9s 16s
OK Cesaroni M1890 85.45lb 75ft/s 652ft/s 5.0G 6,309ft 20.8s 15s
OK Cesaroni M1450 84.91lb 77ft/s 599ft/s 5.4G 6,340ft 21.2s 14s
OK Cesaroni M1800 84.39lb 75ft/s 650ft/s 4.8G 6,375ft 20.9s 15s
OK AeroTech M6000 84.65lb 138ft/s 785ft/s 18.5G 6,385ft 19.0s 17s
OK AeroTech M1939 85.82lb 74ft/s 638ft/s 4.8G 6,653ft 21.4s 14s
OK Cesaroni N1800 86.24lb 74ft/s 658ft/s 4.7G 6,665ft 21.4s 15s
OK AeroTech N2220 92.45lb 83ft/s 683ft/s 6.2G 6,692ft 20.9s 16s
OK Cesaroni M3400 83.88lb 104ft/s 768ft/s 9.7G 6,717ft 20.0s 17s
OK Cesaroni N10000 87.87lb 190ft/s 853ft/s 30.0G 6,856ft 19.3s 18s
OK Cesaroni N2600 91.31lb 84ft/s 747ft/s 6.6G 7,082ft 21.2s 17s
OK Gorilla N2717 88.35lb 87ft/s 754ft/s 9.9G 7,193ft 21.0s 17s
OK Cesaroni N2200 91.04lb 82ft/s 756ft/s 5.8G 7,832ft 22.5s 17s
OK Loki N3800 91.57lb 116ft/s 873ft/s 11.5G 8,286ft 21.8s 19s
OK AeroTech N2000 93.08lb 86ft/s 761ft/s 6.2G 8,618ft 23.6s 16s
OK Gorilla N1720 100.00lb 92ft/s 718ft/s 7.1G 8,828ft 24.0s 16s
OK AeroTech N1000 94.16lb 68ft/s 600ft/s 4.1G 8,948ft 26.9s 11s
OK Cesaroni N2500 91.72lb 96ft/s 852ft/s 8.0G 9,123ft 23.5s 18s
OK Cesaroni N5600 90.87lb 135ft/s 1,018ft/s 15.6G 9,247ft 22.3s 20s
OK Cesaroni N2850 91.77lb 92ft/s 905ft/s 7.3G 9,255ft 23.5s 19s
OK Cesaroni N1100 91.55lb 83ft/s 639ft/s 5.7G 9,255ft 26.1s 14s
OK Cesaroni N1975 95.21lb 65ft/s 835ft/s 4.5G 9,346ft 25.2s 18s
OK Cesaroni N3400 96.80lb 92ft/s 940ft/s 8.6G 9,348ft 23.4s 19s
OK AeroTech N3300 92.57lb 100ft/s 937ft/s 8.2G 9,445ft 23.5s 19s
OK Cesaroni N3180 92.89lb 99ft/s 950ft/s 8.3G 9,583ft 23.7s 19s
OK Cesaroni N2501 95.34lb 92ft/s 911ft/s 7.2G 10,178ft 24.8s 19s
OK Cesaroni N1560 100.96lb 82ft/s 762ft/s 6.1G 10,789ft 27.1s 16s
OK Cesaroni N3800 97.44lb 108ft/s 1,102ft/s 10.1G 11,625ft 25.2s 21s
OK Cesaroni N2540 101.89lb 81ft/s 999ft/s 5.6G 11,679ft 26.7s 20s
OK Cesaroni N4100 98.51lb 108ft/s 1,155ft/s 10.3G 11,742ft 25.3s 21s
OK Cesaroni N2900 97.23lb 100ft/s 1,035ft/s 8.3G 11,834ft 26.0s 20s
OK Cesaroni N3301 102.43lb 104ft/s 1,099ft/s 9.9G 12,447ft 26.3s 20s
OK Cesaroni N5800 98.69lb 135ft/s 1,330ft/s 15.3G 13,290ft 25.7s 22s
OK Cesaroni O3400 103.13lb 107ft/s 1,173ft/s 9.4G 13,516ft 26.9s 21s

Don't like the units? Login to set your preferences. Don't understand the results? See the motor guide help page.

Motors That Fail

These motors fit your rocket, but failed one safety check or another. They may actually work, but you should use them only with caution. We encourage you to run a more complete simulation to verify flight safety; see the simulators page for more info.

  Motor Reason
failedG AeroTech K680 speed at end of launch guide too slow (42ft/s)
failedG AeroTech K650 speed at end of launch guide too slow (38ft/s)
failedG AeroTech K458 speed at end of launch guide too slow (30ft/s)
failedG AeroTech L339 speed at end of launch guide too slow (17ft/s)
failedG AeroTech L400 speed at end of launch guide too slow (34ft/s)
failedG AeroTech L952 speed at end of launch guide too slow (45ft/s)
failedG Cesaroni L610 speed at end of launch guide too slow (45ft/s)
failed5 Gorilla M1565 average thrust fails 5:1 thrust/weight ratio (4:1)
failedG AeroTech M750 speed at end of launch guide too slow (46ft/s)

G These simulations were run with a launch guide length of 20ft (rod, rail or tower). If this is not correct, launch guide lengths can be specified for your saved rockets. (The minimum velocity required is approximately 15m/s or 50ft/s.)

5 The 5:1 thrust-to-weight ratio check is a useful rule of thumb, but it does break down for motors with unusual thrust curves. For example, motors with a high initial thrust and a long tail-off may fail this test but still be safe for use.

Download the Results

The data is presented in a compact form in the tables above, broken down by motors that worked and those that did not. If you would like to analyze the data further, this section provides download links for files in a generic spreadsheet format (comma-separated value, or CSV) that can be opened with almost any spreadsheet program.

CSV Excel   Download full details of the simulation runs with the various motors:
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URI: /motorguide.jsp
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  1. java.io.FileOutputStream.open(Native Method)
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  3. java.io.FileOutputStream.(FileOutputStream.java:131)
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  5. org.thrustcurve.sim.GuideExporter.export(GuideExporter.java:100)
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  13. org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet.serviceJspFile(JspServlet.java:308)
  14. org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet.service(JspServlet.java:259)
  15. javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:729)
  16. org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:269)
  17. org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:188)
  18. org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapperValve.invoke(StandardWrapperValve.java:213)
  19. org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invoke(StandardContextValve.java:172)
  20. org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostValve.invoke(StandardHostValve.java:127)
  21. org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorReportValve.invoke(ErrorReportValve.java:117)
  22. org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngineValve.invoke(StandardEngineValve.java:108)
  23. org.apache.catalina.connector.CoyoteAdapter.service(CoyoteAdapter.java:174)
  24. org.apache.jk.server.JkCoyoteHandler.invoke(JkCoyoteHandler.java:200)
  25. org.apache.jk.common.HandlerRequest.invoke(HandlerRequest.java:291)
  26. org.apache.jk.common.ChannelSocket.invoke(ChannelSocket.java:775)
  27. org.apache.jk.common.ChannelSocket.processConnection(ChannelSocket.java:704)
  28. org.apache.jk.common.ChannelSocket$SocketConnection.runIt(ChannelSocket.java:897)
  29. org.apache.tomcat.util.threads.ThreadPool$ControlRunnable.run(ThreadPool.java:689)
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Query: rocket=171

java.io.FileNotFoundException: /home/orgthrus/public_html/guide/ZSJJYZC/1/38_Saturn_V-results-fail.csv (No such file or directory)

  1. java.io.FileOutputStream.open(Native Method)
  2. java.io.FileOutputStream.(FileOutputStream.java:179)
  3. java.io.FileOutputStream.(FileOutputStream.java:131)
  4. java.io.FileWriter.(FileWriter.java:73)
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  16. org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:269)
  17. org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:188)
  18. org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapperValve.invoke(StandardWrapperValve.java:213)
  19. org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invoke(StandardContextValve.java:172)
  20. org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostValve.invoke(StandardHostValve.java:127)
  21. org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorReportValve.invoke(ErrorReportValve.java:117)
  22. org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngineValve.invoke(StandardEngineValve.java:108)
  23. org.apache.catalina.connector.CoyoteAdapter.service(CoyoteAdapter.java:174)
  24. org.apache.jk.server.JkCoyoteHandler.invoke(JkCoyoteHandler.java:200)
  25. org.apache.jk.common.HandlerRequest.invoke(HandlerRequest.java:291)
  26. org.apache.jk.common.ChannelSocket.invoke(ChannelSocket.java:775)
  27. org.apache.jk.common.ChannelSocket.processConnection(ChannelSocket.java:704)
  28. org.apache.jk.common.ChannelSocket$SocketConnection.runIt(ChannelSocket.java:897)
  29. org.apache.tomcat.util.threads.ThreadPool$ControlRunnable.run(ThreadPool.java:689)
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Query: rocket=171

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  2. java.io.FileOutputStream.(FileOutputStream.java:179)
  3. java.io.FileOutputStream.(FileOutputStream.java:131)
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  13. org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet.serviceJspFile(JspServlet.java:308)
  14. org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet.service(JspServlet.java:259)
  15. javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:729)
  16. org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:269)
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  21. org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorReportValve.invoke(ErrorReportValve.java:117)
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  23. org.apache.catalina.connector.CoyoteAdapter.service(CoyoteAdapter.java:174)
  24. org.apache.jk.server.JkCoyoteHandler.invoke(JkCoyoteHandler.java:200)
  25. org.apache.jk.common.HandlerRequest.invoke(HandlerRequest.java:291)
  26. org.apache.jk.common.ChannelSocket.invoke(ChannelSocket.java:775)
  27. org.apache.jk.common.ChannelSocket.processConnection(ChannelSocket.java:704)
  28. org.apache.jk.common.ChannelSocket$SocketConnection.runIt(ChannelSocket.java:897)
  29. org.apache.tomcat.util.threads.ThreadPool$ControlRunnable.run(ThreadPool.java:689)
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  3. java.io.FileOutputStream.(FileOutputStream.java:131)
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  5. org.thrustcurve.sim.GuideExporter.export(GuideExporter.java:100)
  6. org.thrustcurve.jsp.GuideResultATag.doTag(GuideResultATag.java:184)
  7. org.thrustcurve.jsp.SimpleTagBase.doStartTag(SimpleTagBase.java:16)
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  9. org.apache.jsp.motorguide_jsp._jspService(motorguide_jsp.java:1008)
  10. org.apache.jasper.runtime.HttpJspBase.service(HttpJspBase.java:98)
  11. javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:729)
  12. org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServletWrapper.service(JspServletWrapper.java:371)
  13. org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet.serviceJspFile(JspServlet.java:308)
  14. org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet.service(JspServlet.java:259)
  15. javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:729)
  16. org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:269)
  17. org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:188)
  18. org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapperValve.invoke(StandardWrapperValve.java:213)
  19. org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invoke(StandardContextValve.java:172)
  20. org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostValve.invoke(StandardHostValve.java:127)
  21. org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorReportValve.invoke(ErrorReportValve.java:117)
  22. org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngineValve.invoke(StandardEngineValve.java:108)
  23. org.apache.catalina.connector.CoyoteAdapter.service(CoyoteAdapter.java:174)
  24. org.apache.jk.server.JkCoyoteHandler.invoke(JkCoyoteHandler.java:200)
  25. org.apache.jk.common.HandlerRequest.invoke(HandlerRequest.java:291)
  26. org.apache.jk.common.ChannelSocket.invoke(ChannelSocket.java:775)
  27. org.apache.jk.common.ChannelSocket.processConnection(ChannelSocket.java:704)
  28. org.apache.jk.common.ChannelSocket$SocketConnection.runIt(ChannelSocket.java:897)
  29. org.apache.tomcat.util.threads.ThreadPool$ControlRunnable.run(ThreadPool.java:689)
  30. java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:595)

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the list of motors that fit your rocket into a batch for use with SMARTSim. (See the Simulators page for more info.)

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